Quality as a curious system - Into the MoTaverse - Episode 13

It was such a pleasure to have Alan Page on Into the MoTaverse. Alan is a titan in the testing community, known for his work at Microsoft, his "Modern Testing" principles, and the AB Testing podcast. We caught up on his recent 3,000-mile hike of the Pacific Crest Trail and how that "slow mode" gave him a fresh perspective on a tech world that is moving faster than ever.

The heart of the conversation centered on staying curious in the age of AI. Alan shared how he’s using agentic AI to build personal tools, like a custom job scraper and why he believes the "right-brain" skills of creativity, judgment, and systems thinking are now more valuable than the ability to write code.

We explored the idea of quality as a systemic outcome rather than a department, and why the best leaders focus on transparency and psychological safety to let their teams truly innovate.