Lisa Crispin: How can we be continuously curious?
11 Jun 2025
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In the debut episode of Leading With Quality, Ministry of Testing founder and CEO Rosie Sherry sits down with Lisa Crispin. Drawing on 40 years of testing, teaching and consulting, Lisa shares how to move a team from “mini-waterfall” hand-offs to a shared ownership of quality.
Some of the key quality practices Lisa shares include:
- Make problems visible so the whole team feels the pain and owns the fix.
- Book a quick “desk-check” with a developer before code is committed.
- Run RiskStorming or example mapping early to create shared understanding.
- Set up two-to-four-week “try-it-and-measure” experiments to tighten feedback loops.
They also dig into why psychological safety underpins all of this, how the newer Quality Engineer role expands a tester’s influence, and how to keep the current AI buzz in perspective while leaning on community connections for continuous learning.
Watch now to pick up practical ideas you can apply at your very next sprint!
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