Two MoTacon attendees are on the left. The MoTaacon logo is in the center, and to the right a prompt to Get Your Ticket.
It's been thirty years. Same loop, better toys. thumbnail
A free account is required to view this content

It's been thirty years. Same loop, better toys.

Joe Colantonio runs TestGuild. It has been twelve years since Rosie was last on his podcast, and long enough for both of them to have watched the same ideas come round more than once.

The loop is hard to miss. Testing skill mattered, then tooling mattered, then everyone had to become a developer, and now AI writes the code and testing skill matters again. WinRunner would fix reliability, then Selenium would, then Playwright. Keyword-driven testing and behaviour-driven development were both going to let everyone test. Joe watched both roll out at GE and neither stuck. He started an AI testing summit in 2018 to near silence.

And yet they are both clearly enjoying themselves. Rosie rebuilt her personal site with Lovable, imported her old tweets, and built Spaceducking as a deliberately buggy practice site. Joe vibe coded a test tool matcher and an accessibility scanner, neither of which he needed. Half the time goes on testing what the AI produced, which is the point.

 


Comments

Melissa Fisher
Great conversation with lots of topics covered - I've taken lots of notes. I found Jitesh's blog post on quality falls through the gaps. Looking forward to reading this one > https://qualityeng.substack.com/p/quality-falls-through-the-gaps

Sign in to comment
Explore MoT
From test cases to AI-ready quality data: why structure matters image
Learn how to structure and organize test management data as an AI-ready foundation that gives AI systems richer context for testing insights and workflows.
MoT Software Quality Engineering Certificate image
Boost your career in quality engineering with the MoT Software Quality Engineering Certificate.
Into The Motaverse image
Into the MoTaverse is a podcast by Ministry of Testing, hosted by Rosie Sherry, exploring the people, insights, and systems shaping quality in modern software teams.
Subscribe to our newsletter