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Three ring binders, AI tentacles, and the future of quality β€” Into the MoTaverse Episode 8

11 Mar 2026
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In this episode of Into the MoTaverse, Rosie Sherry speaks with Shawn Vernier, a quality advocate based in Canada, about his journey from software developer to quality engineer and his evolving perspective on testing, automation, and product quality. Sean shares how his curiosity and excitement of asking β€œwhy?” led him toward quality engineering.

Together, they expand the MoTaverse by exploring:

  • The gap between industry hype and real-world practice,
  • test automation and AI tentacles πŸ™
  • the maintenance burden of automation
  • the value of test artifacts as living documentation
  • why quality cannot be treated like a factory assembly line
  • and, documentation, data as a form of product knowledge

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