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Kat Obring: Scaling change, one iteration at a time

In this episode of Leading With Quality, Rosie Sherry catches up with Kat Obring, founder of Kato Coaching, long-time educator, and passionate advocate for practical leadership.

Rosie and Kat reflect on how we can lead with quality, especially when we don’t have a formal leadership title. They discuss the importance of showing up, doing the work, and finding the small changes that can move things forward. 

Kat shares her experiences working as a consultant and coach, where leading by example, helping people develop, and showing care for the company all matter deeply.

You’ll hear about:

  • Leading through small, iterative changes that add up over time
  • Teaching people how to find answers, not just giving them
  • Using metrics, questions, and conversations to surface what really matters
  • The invisible value of glue work and why we need to celebrate it
  • The power of language in how we influence, advocate, and resolve conflict
  • Why some opinions of quality feel stuck and how we can move beyond them
  • Quality as context-dependent, care-driven, and deeply human work

This is a conversation about navigating complexity, finding ways to create impact, and choosing to act audaciously. If you're someone who's striving to create change but struggling to get buy-in, this episode is for you!


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