Kat Obring: Scaling change, one iteration at a time

3rd July 2025
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Rosie Sherry

CEO & Founder at Ministry of Testing

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Kat Obring

Founder, Director

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Talk Description

In this episode of Leading With Quality, Rosie Sherry catches up with Kat Obring, founder of Kato Coaching, long-time educator, and passionate advocate for practical leadership.

Rosie and Kat reflect on how we can lead with quality, especially when we don’t have a formal leadership title. They discuss the importance of showing up, doing the work, and finding the small changes that can move things forward. 

Kat shares her experiences working as a consultant and coach, where leading by example, helping people develop, and showing care for the company all matter deeply.

You’ll hear about:

  • Leading through small, iterative changes that add up over time
  • Teaching people how to find answers, not just giving them
  • Using metrics, questions, and conversations to surface what really matters
  • The invisible value of glue work and why we need to celebrate it
  • The power of language in how we influence, advocate, and resolve conflict
  • Why some opinions of quality feel stuck and how we can move beyond them
  • Quality as context-dependent, care-driven, and deeply human work

This is a conversation about navigating complexity, finding ways to create impact, and choosing to act audaciously. If you're someone who's striving to create change but struggling to get buy-in, this episode is for you!

Rosie Sherry
CEO & Founder at Ministry of Testing
She/Her
I've been working in the software testing and quality engineering space since the year 2000 whilst also combining it with my love for education and community building.
Kat Obring
Founder, Director
she/her
Former chef turned software testing expert Kat Obring brings 20 years of experience from Disney, Anaplan, and Accenture. She coaches testers and advises managers on testing strategy.
Rosie Sherry
CEO & Founder at Ministry of Testing
She/Her
I've been working in the software testing and quality engineering space since the year 2000 whilst also combining it with my love for education and community building.
Kat Obring
Founder, Director
she/her
Former chef turned software testing expert Kat Obring brings 20 years of experience from Disney, Anaplan, and Accenture. She coaches testers and advises managers on testing strategy.
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